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King: What do you favor as the answer to this problem?
SEN. BILL FRIST (R), TENNESSEE, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Larry, I favor and I believe the majority of the American people favor first and foremost strong border security. We've got to tighten up the borders first and foremost.
Secondly, (1) enforcement and by that we mean enforcement at the place, at the workplace, inside, inside the country where employers enforce the law of the land. We are a nation of laws.
Then, third a strong temporary worker program and that addresses the economic issue we want and immigrants should come into this country legally under a temporary program.
And then the fourth component of this comprehensive reform needs to bring the 12 million people who are here illegally, illegally today, give them the opportunity to come out of the (2) those four components. That's what I mean by comprehensive reform and that's what I'll take back to the floor of the Senate here in about two weeks.
KING: Lou Dobbs what do you favor?
LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: I favor, just as Senator Frist said and I've said for some time, you cannot reform immigration if you can't control it. You can't control it unless you secure your borders and ports.(翻译句子)
And this Congress, the House, the Senate, both parties Republicans and Democrats, this president and the previous president have all been derelict in(短语解释) securing our borders.
Four and a half years after September 11th we are still on your broadcast, Larry, talking about securing our borders. In my judgment that is simply (3) and it is not what the American people deserve.
KING: And, Lou, what about the already here illegals? I guess what do they estimate 12 to 14 million?
DOBBS: Well, the estimates run anywhere from 11 to 12 million to 20 million. A Bear Stearns study, Larry, last year put the number at nearer 20 million. And the fact is we're in a situation where our Senators and our Congressmen and this president are going to be deciding public policy without even knowing how many people are here.
But the great concern for me is that there be a (4) response but the greatest concern of all is that the American working man and woman, our middle class, be protected in whatever form that legislation takes.
And, certainly our national security be protected and the only way in the world I could support any kind of immigration reform is as a condition precedent absolutely secure our borders, absolutely secure our ports. No security is ever perfect but this is the least the American people deserve and that is our very best efforts.
KING: Janet, what about those already here, illegally here but millions here? Obviously you can't put them on a bus and send them back. What do you do?
JANET MURGUIA, PRESIDENT AND CEO, NATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA: Well that's right, Larry. We need to be practical and we need to be effective. And I think the compromise bill that's pending before the Senate I think recognizes that we can't round up 12 million people that you have to be able to find a way to provide not amnesty because we're not talking about amnesty.
The bill that is on consideration right now would basically say that folks would have to step up basically pay a fine, go back to the end of the line, agree to learn English and it would be anywhere from ten to 12 years before they could apply for citizenship.
That's not (5). That's a way for them to earn their legalization and go through appropriate background and security checks to do so and we think that has to be an essential part of a comprehensive immigration reform bill.
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